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So how many people here have been brought up catholic? And then realized that god you believed in , or didn't believe in, doesn't believe in you because you like people of the same sex?
Unfair right. Now I'm not a religious person in the very least, but its still interesting looking at all the different religions, and seeing who and what the accept. So how many people here would still call themselves Christian? and if not, what other religions interest you.. or do you call yourself? Just an interesting topic amongst gays. Do we actually have a religion besides atheism?
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I'd consider myself a deist, or scientific agnostic. However I refuse to believe there is no higher power. I sympathize with Atheists, and I understand where they are coming from. However, there is just no point in our existence if a higher power, a super natural, doesn't exist.
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Well as of lately i gave up my beliefs on Christianity, i can't believe that our god would simply punish us and send us to hell for a simple sin, yet he loves us. I was brought up catholic. But lately wicca has been interesting me, *no its not a cult*.. and no im not wiccan, but its just an interesting read.
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I was raised Christian, but I don't believe anymore. If I could, I would believe in destiny. it seems the most fun. I do however believe theres more to life then just live, die and get over it.
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I think I might be almost Agnostic. I do believe there is something out there, I just want some evidence other than a book that has been passed down over hundreds of years.
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Basically, being homosexual shouldn't bar you from being a normal member of society, and folks shouldn't bar themselves from Church (or whatever religious institution where you worship). In the Roman Catholic example, it has been revealed that quite a few number of priests are gay, and for the Roman Catholic Church to give homosexuals grief is not right. Simply put, I would operate under a don't ask/don't tell policy when you go to church where you can be a productive member of the congregation while also maintaining your lifestyle without getting grief from others. Once you become an indispensible part of the community most likely your sexuality will become an irrelevant fact of life or at worst an open secret about no one talks. Finally, the Episcopal Church has shown itself to be pretty progressive when it comes to homosexual rights. While it is a Protestant Church it retains many aspects of the Roman Catholic liturgy which may be appealing for those from high church traditions. |
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I'm not religious because I realized that the history of the church isn't as nice as they claim it to be. They talk about brotherly love but they hate homosexuals without reason. To me, that doesn't make no sense at all.
When I was younger, I always thought that the religions are against war and murders - but then I realized that a large part of wars and murders/genocides on earth are caused by religious beliefs. And one thing confused me alot: Every religion claims that their religion is the only right one and everyone who believes in another god is wrong. So who is right when everyone thinks that they have the ultimate belief. So I'm Atheist but I think that Buddhism is quite interesting. -> That's only my opinion. I didn't intend to offend anyone. I'm quite tolerant and think that everyone should believe in what they want, as long as they are tolerant and let others believe what they want, too. (there was a woman I didn't know who wanted me to join her cult/sect.....). I think that being gay made me more tolerant towards minorities. |
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Well they hate gays because gay sex can't reproduce and they think its unfair for men to waster their ''seed'' as its like taking away someones chance at life. Thats also why they're against contraception. It doesn't make sense why they hate gays SO much though. That's true. there would be a lot less war but there could be a lot more immoral people. Pope Benedict XVI said a while back that you don't need to be catholic anymore, you just need to be a good person to get into heaven. That being said he also said any Arabs who aren't terrorists get in....bad idea Pope. I think Buddhism is one of the best choices out there. You pretty much share the same belief system as me! go us!
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This is actually an interesting topic. I'm Christian, and plan on staying that way unless something changes my mind.
While I was looking up this topic online, I found this website concerned about homosexuality and coming out. In one of the topics, the editor of the website stated that, as far as we know it, God made homosexuality. So, why would he create us if he meant for us to go to hell. Were we destined to suffer in hell after creating us as homosexual? Just kind of an interesting thing to think about. |
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I guess the only thing I can add to this discussion is that churches are man made creations. God and the churches are mutually exclusive, and the position of the churches should never keep you from having a relationship with God. As someone had earlier mentioned, God doesn't make mistakes, and homosexuals exist for a reason. Unfortunately, people fear what is different from them or what they cannot understand, and they often use organs such as the government, social organizations, or the churches (or other religious groups) to enforce their will.
Perhaps I am naive, but in the end of the day I firmly believe that God loves everyone, and we all have duty to live our lives to the best of our ability according the belief system expoused by our respective religions. While we certainly can't pick and choose what aspects of our religion that we want to follow the fact remains that God is a constant and that our relationship with him transcends all things. My regrets if my post turns this into a religious debate as that is not my intention. We can argue for hours and hours as to what each religion says about homosexuality, but when it is all said and done it is up to each individual to find God, and because God gave us free will God will never force him/herself upon us; if we seek him/her, then he will be there. |
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