guy0680

Hmmm I guess I could be classified as a twink (a young gay male) but I wouldn't say its the best way to describe me (I always imagine a twink being really, really young looking, almost childish with a relly nice body)

I think he used the word "twink" because it did sound like what the lady was chanting but I still thought he used the world because he knows/suspects I'm gay because most guys wouldn't use that word with other guys

OKCTeen2010

Wow... I concur. This is really interesting.

Well, this guy is definitely starting to up his "game". I honestly think he was trying to get a response out of you when he talked about his date. I feel bad because I can't offer any help and I cannot imagine how frustrating this must be for you. :/

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Jamd

I read your previous thread and thought about the rumour mill bit and have an idea.
if you don't mind having any rumours spread about you, create one. if he hears that you are gay/bi and he defends you as you did for him and maybe even talks/asks about to you then that could be a sign.

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guy0680

Ugh I have been kind of down and the dumps the past few days.

Since there is no privacy whatsoever at work and he is never online I have no been able to further our friendship/relationship/etc. any further. There is only so far that him and I are willing to openly flirt in public since we are both closeted. At this point I would love nothing more to just hang out with him and his friends.

I am at a point in my life that I am at a crossroads with my friends/social group. I went through high school a popular football player with all the artificial, fake friends. I now like less and less of them, they are all mean, fake people, who I don't really care to hang out with. Unfortunately this leaves me with a very bare social schedule till I go back to college. With that being said I don't think that this is why I have my crush, as I know many gay people/groups I could "latch" onto.

My "friends", my friends from work, and my crush's friends would not mesh well in a party setting at all, I think it would just be trouble and uncomfortable.

Does anyone have any ideas how to get him online to talk or to get invited out with him?? (In a non-creepy, self-inviting way?)

RockoV

I just wanted to ask, and I dont wanna be negative, but, are u sure you really want this guy to be with you, I mean what do you want from him,have you ever thought of what would happen if he really is in to you, for your posts you seem really insecure about what you're looking for, I'd recommend you, going with the flow , dont try to force it and be carefull with what you wish, cuz you might get it

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guy0680

I'm just kind of looking to be with him...to hang out with him, hug him, cuddle with him, talk to him etc...his is the first guy that I've ever had the urge to do any of that stuff with.

Right now I guess (if anything miraculous works out in my favor for once in my life) I would want to "be in his life", hang out with him, be his friend, and see what that leads to (dating? coming out to everyone? friendship?)

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guy0680

Bloodhound, he tries very hard to make everyone think hes straight, hes denied "accusations" of it before, so I am afraid that if I did (and that is a big "if", there is NO privacy at work) that he would deny it because I am a "work person" and doesn't want me knowing/talking about it at work. If he knows/assumes/finds out I'm gay too may let him open up to me but I'm still worried about "getting the pie in the face" by coming out to him first.

I will come out to him if I could get him in a private situation or online

guy0680

Hey just wanted to let you guys that are hooked on my "soap opera" what the latest is.

Tomorrow, I decided that I was going to finally get over my fear, anxiousness, etc. and ask him to hang out sometime. Right now I am very excited and scared about how it will go. Although I do have a crush, I really would love to be his friend as he seems like a great person and can relate to me in many ways.

I mentioned above that I went through high school/my life with all fake artificial friends....and I think that it has made me "socially awkward" at this point in my life. In high school I was a football player, the prom king, always with friends, things to do and places to go....but I always just had them because of what I did and who I was...I never had to put myself out there and "ask" new people to hang out, initiate stuff, make friends, if that makes any sense. That is what has been a main issue here I think, I've been waiting/hoping him to ask me. I am afraid of looking like a weirdo, douche or loser when I ask him. Tomorrow I am going to try to get myself in check and ask him.

I asked my best friend, who is a girl, ways that I could ask this without it being weird or anything (she knew it was a guy, but not that I like him or that he is gay)...*I think its really sad that I have to plan this out, just so yo all know!!* ....He went to a party tonight and tomorrow when he is telling me how it was/what happened I say (something like) "That sounds like it was nuts, we definitely got to party soon, let me know next time something good is going on."

Does that sound good? Anyone have anything else I could/should add?? Once again I know how sad it is to plan this out lol

Also if you guys remember it has begun to go around our work that he is gay. One co-worker has begun to be rude to him (not homophobic, but just being unpleasant to him), and I have been putting him in his place when I can. My crush has become friends with two older (one in her late 20's and one in her 40s?) at work, who he has come out to and has told them he is upset that everyone is finding out. Unfortunately one of the woman, who I love, has a hugeeeee mouth and has most likely outted him more than everyone without knowing. I have been able to get info out of her about his feelings about being outted with very little effort!

It has made me wonder though why he hasn't come out to me though...I think he either A) knows/assumes I know and thinks it would be like telling me the sky is blue or B) Doesn't think I know and doesn't want me to be another person at work knowing. What do you guys think?

I want to tell him that I'm there for him, and that he can talk/call me whenever he wants if he needed someone to talk to...but I don't know if I should, what do you guys think? I have just been treating him like I always have, like nothing is changing/happening.

Tonight when I was working he came in (he worked earlier in the day and had been gone for a few hours) all dressed up in slacks, button up shirt, tie, etc.. When he came over to me I asked him what he was doing all dressed up, he told me about the party he was going to. And when I was complimenting the way he looked he looked down in an awe-shucks kind of way with that smile of his that just makes me melt. I liked to think that he came in for me to see him, a guy can dream right??

Have a nice night guys.

Jamd

I just want to say sorry if my soap opera comment was rude.
how did it go? what did he say?

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guy0680

Jamd, don't apologize!! I fully agree and accept your title!! I just used it because I like it!

Well I managed to do what I wanted to do and tell him that we have to party together sometime and to let me know next time something is going on. He said "definitely" but when I was going to work into giving him my number we were interrupted...so now I have to figure out a way to give it to him.

Later on one thing lead to another and me, him and another co-worker of ours were suppose to hang out tonight....something I was extremely excited about!!!!! He took the co-workers number and was suppose to text her about tonight, but he never did...so it didn't end up happening which bummed me out because I was really looking forward to hanging out and getting to know him better. I'm hoping we will be able to get together soon!! Unfortunately I won't work with him again till Tuesday ...so unless he comes into work to visit or comes online I won't be talking to him.

Although the day ended with me pretty bummed, I think it went really well, as I finally got up the nerve to ask him to hang out ...hopefully I can continue to work towards being his friend!!

I am still at a loss about what to do about the "knowing hes gay thing" he is closeted at work, has told 2 people, one of which knows I know but hasn't told him. I still don't know if he hasn't told me because it would be like telling me the sky's blue....or if he thinks I'm straight and doesn't want yet another work friend knowing??

Jamd

Does he ever come online? do you think he didn't go through with it b/c he didn't want the extra company?

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guy0680

Hey everyone I'm back...

Not that much new to report, I haven't worked/talked to him that much since last friday, only yesterday and today. Today I got to talk to him alot, even got to give him my number, turns out he went on my MySpace and looked through it pretty well because he was talking about all kinds of stuff on it..... but I'm still iffy about a lot of things. I think that the main thing that is/will keep us from hanging out is I still don't think he knows I know hes gay and that I am too. (I don't think he will invite me out with him and his gay friends doing "gay" things if he thinks I'm straight and don't know hes gay). I've done everything I can think of to clue him in besides telling him, I've been waiting for him to come out to me because I don't really know how to handle that without being blunt and being like "So I know your gay and I am too" (in different words obviously). Any suggestions?

Today me, him and another co-worker were talking and he goes ""Guy" is pretty awesome, If I was gay, I'd definately go for "Guy"!" then smiled at me and I smiled back.....What do you guys think that meant?? I was going to say the same thing back to him but the subject was changed quickly.

Alyosha

I think your co-worker is very much more brave than I'd ever be about giving a hint to someone. Which, if you didn't catch that, I think he was dropping a hit. I have a friend who's in the same predicament you're in. She and this guy had the most romantic night in the world that I could ever come up with. They spent all night, with her covered in his water polo jacket, talking while sitting on the trunk of his car. She asks him to tell her a secret no one else knows and she'd do the same. She confesses that she really enjoyed the night, but then he says something lame about one foot being longer than the other. And it keeps ending up like that.

Her problem isn't fixed yet, but I keep telling her, just make the first move. Same to you.

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guy0680

So you think that the "If I was gay I'd definitely go for Guy" was really the hint I think it was?